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Sir Maker of Rain!
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1 - 0 with a +250 posted so far here at Therx!

Scoring on Cagliari is as easy as walking into a nickel whore house with a pocket full of dimes, and you want to go to Olimpico? Yeah, good luck with that!

Roma -1 -120

And Verona at + Money is hysterical to me, Reggina is WAYYYY down there in the table and Verona hasn't lost in their last 6 and is such a better organized squad on every level!

Hellas Verona +125 3 Way (1x2)

All plays A unit as usual!
 

"i had a hundy but i bet a grand"
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you have to be 'in the know' to wager on italian football to make any sort of money...what may seem obvious is not so....italian football is the equivalent of the MAC conference...
 

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well considering i have been following Italian Football since 1983, I certainly wouldn't compare it to anything like some MAC Ncaa Conference, but you think what you need to think, good luck to ya there guy!
 

"i had a hundy but i bet a grand"
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i liked Balotelli's welcome back to Italy pk in the last seconds of extra time...that penalty call seemed legit(insert chuckle)....you keep believing Italian football is on the up and up...and since you have been following since '83 i will assume you read most of the world newspapers being a gambling man looking for whatever info you can to get a leg up....you'll notice the headlines of over 380 matches fixed...what % you think are from Italy's divisions?....and if you knew anything about the MAC conference and it's shady history you could certainly draw comparisons between the two....cheers
 

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So i take it you missed this then?

Yes i know alot of people shy away from Italy due to the fix and the scams and the maffia LoL

And i certainly won't deny that there is always a chance for something rotten in Denmark if you will, but there is atleast a semblance of what should happen barring someone getting paid to make shit happen, which what can you do, it happens everywhere though, Italy most known ofcourse, but we've seen it in the NBA, MLB, It's a possiblity any day, any game, any sport IMO, so i mean, whatever!
 

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So with that said, where do you see me saying i believe Italy is on the up and up?

I must have missed that, because I certainly never came close to saying that!

Italy, Denmark, USA, Pick a country man, it happens all the damn time, and that Number you posted is only a fraction of the true number of fixed games in the world, sports betting is hard enough, but when you can't predict who is paying who to MAKE things happen, it adds a whole element no one thinks about, and trust me, I think about it every day!! Not just in Italy!!
 

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maybe an assumption on my part then...but if you claim to have followed since '83 and know it's rigged, why would you continue to bet into it? like i previously stated, if you are 'in the know' w/italian football then it's all good..but if you aren't then how is that fair to the average punter
 

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so you are stuck on "it all has to be rigged" assumption then?

I bet with what i see since i watch atleast 5-6 matches each weekend and I see what I see and there isn't a fix on every day for every match, you are making it seem as if the fix is on for every match, every day, all the time, no doubt, there is no other way!!


I have nothing to say then, you are stuck there and that's about it!
 

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380 IN EUROPE not just Italy!!

You think it only happens in Italy? Read my friend!! Enjoy betting tomorrow LoL


Match-fixing probe: 680 suspicious games worldwide



THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) -- Organized crime gangs have fixed or tried to fix hundreds of soccer matches around the world in recent years, including World Cup and European Championship qualifiers and two Champions League games, Europol announced Monday.

The European Union's police agency said an 18-month review found 380 suspicious matches in Europe and another 300 questionable games outside the continent, mainly in Africa, Asia and South and Central America. It also found evidence that a Singapore-based crime syndicate was involved in some of the match-fixing.
Europol refused to name any suspected matches, players, officials or match-fixers, saying that would compromise ongoing national investigations, so it remained unclear how much of the information divulged Monday was new or had already been revealed in trials across the continent.
Even so, the picture painted by Europol was the latest body blow for the credibility of sports in general, following cyclist Lance Armstrong's admission that he used performance-enhancing drugs in all seven of his Tour de France wins.
''This is a sad day for European football (soccer),'' Europol Director Rob Wainwright told reporters. He said criminals were cashing in on soccer corruption ''on a scale and in a way that threatens the very fabric of the game.''
Europol said 425 match officials, club officials, players and criminals from at least 15 countries were involved in fixing European soccer games dating back to 2008.
Ralf Mutschke, director of security at FIFA, the world soccer body, said the report highlighted the need for soccer authorities and police to tackle corruption together.
''The support of law enforcement bodies, legal investigations, and ultimately tougher sanctions are required, as currently there is low risk and high gain potential for the fixers,'' he said.
Mutschke said while FIFA can ban players, referees and club officials, it is powerless to sanction people not directly involved in the sport.
''For people outside of football, currently the custodial sentences imposed are too weak and offer little to deter someone from getting involved in match-fixing,'' he said.
Europol is not a police force but provides expertise and helps coordinate national police across the 27-nation European Union. It said 13 European countries were involved in this match-fixing investigation, pouring through 13,000 emails, paper trails, phone records and computer records.
Its probe uncovered (euro) 8 million ($10.9 million) in betting profits and (euro) 2 million ($2.7 million) in bribes to players and officials and has already led to several prosecutions.
''This is the tip of the iceberg,'' said German investigator Friedhelm Althans, who also said two World Cup qualification matches in Africa and one in Central America were among those under suspicion.
Wainwright said while many fixed soccer matches were already known from criminal trials in Europe, the Europol investigation lifted the lid on the widespread involvement of organized crime.
''(That) highlights a big problem for the integrity of football in Europe,'' he said.
He said a Singapore-based criminal network was involved in the match-fixing, spending up to (euro) 100,000 ($136,500) per match to bribe players and officials.
''The ringleaders are of Asian origin, working closely together with European facilitators,'' Europol said in a statement, but adding that ''Russian-speaking'' and other criminal gangs were also involved.
Wainwright said the soccer world needed a ''concerted effort'' to tackle the corruption.
UEFA, which oversees European soccer and organizes the Champions League, seemed surprised by the breadth of Europol's accusations. It said it expected to get more information on their investigation shortly.
''Once the details of these investigations are in UEFA's hands, then they will be reviewed by the appropriate disciplinary bodies in order that the necessary measures are taken,'' UEFA said in a statement.
Previous investigations have found that a World Cup qualifier between Liechtenstein and Finland in September 2009 was fixed by a referee from Bosnia, who UEFA banned for life.
Last year, UEFA expelled a Malta player implicated in fixing a European Championship qualifier between Norway and Malta in June 2007.
 

"i had a hundy but i bet a grand"
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A: i'm not your friend
B: your condescending tone is a lil much for me for a freaking internet forum
C: never said it 'only' happens in italy but a good percent has been documented there
D: since you've been following football since '83 your obviously more in the know than i
 

Sir Maker of Rain!
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A: LoL
B: If a conversation about scams in Soccer is condescending to you, stop posting
C: No Shit
D: No Doubt!

You be well and good luck to you!
 

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